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i read After Tamerlan conclusions. Personally i can add that Timur, Safevi, Mamluk empires short lived becuz Ottoman Sultans personally chosen to crusade south and east part which are dense Turkic tribe populations. The religious Caliph mania started, wanted to be the Holy leader of Muslims, religious leaders are imported and integrated from Arabic lands. If you were arabic ''kavmi necip = superiour race'' in the governance and society of Ottomans. Laws, courts dictated by arab religion leaders ''Kadı''

So this is superior democratic governance, trade, state governance, religious and court leaders were non Turks, you can equal to Usa population. Soldiers and farmers were Turks.

Tax, military obligations for farmers, non Turks untaxed.

There were non ''russia'' Before 12th century. Similarly most of the russia hinterland population densely Turkic tribes but governed by Moscow minority. Same model as Ottoman empire. Tatars are Turkic tribes, no segregation. Crimean Tatars were taxing Moscow until 16 century even.

''So nation fails'' Acemoglu observation about Ottoman is totally distortion again.

There was ultra democracy and governance power for minorities. They are in trade, law, property rights, untax, have religion freedom, travel freedom. Altough they dont have military obligation, they were in command position, given rank title ''Pasha'' ''Grand Vezir''.

https://istanbultarihi.ist/668-the-printing-presses-of-istanbul-1453-1839

At year 1920, Turk populations read-write ratio was below %5.

So thousands of books were printed, who read it, who benefited it, which nation failed i would like to ask Acem if i meet him?

Too much democracy, power always abused it seems.

Ottoman internal resistance to change from traditionalist elements (non Turkic minorities ) within the empire came.The Waging wars for loot become unsuccesful due to population shrink of Turk origins.

Nowadays we see the same pattern in Russia. In Ukraine war, Moscow slavic ones stay and continue their daily life, while Tatars, Bashkurts ,Kazak, Ozbek =Turkic tribes fight and die at war. So Tatars and cechens also fight in Ukraine troops. Slavic young population already fled to EU and Turkey.

Russia is the new Ottoman Empire it seems. History repeats. Foxes who sacrifies their lions, will be eaten by other lions.

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